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you patho sicko weird guy pretending to be an "artist" and finding something beautiful in having a mad man killing other people !

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since 1979 i have had 19 solo exhibitions, 62 group exhibitions, done 84 performances and gave many lectures and workshops, several tv-documentaries have been made about my work, which isn't bad for a pretender, right? art is not about beauty, maybe in your little mind it is, but then keep it there.
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Oh, I see, Mister DDV has a great Ego; not very unusual for an "artist" unfortunately.

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it has nothing to do with a great ego, just that you don't seem to estimate art very high, but that's your problem, not mine.
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If meticulously quoting your "performances" is not having a great ego than what is it ?

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well in this way anything listed by anybody is because of their great ego, it's just a bit of information, trying to make you understand i didn't make all this up yesterday.
you started out calling me a 'pretender', and by quoting all the stuff i've done, as an artist, for over 15 years, i only wanted to make clear that this is just what i do and i don't have to 'pretend' at all. if you keep thinking that this is about having a great ego you must have an even greater ego to think that you can rule out what's pretending and what's not.
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Let me reassure you, I had never heard of you before your web page and the vast majority of Belgium neither. Very difficult just to be the weirdest artist of Belgium and that nobody cares about it, uh ?

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let me reassure you, there are billions of others like you, but then you like it in the herd don't you?


Are you really thinking what you say or are you just playing that role?
You are the great guy to judge, give opinions, say what is beautiful or horrible - tell how the police is doing his work - know who the killer is and what else ? ....

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aha, we're not allowed to have opinions, nor say what's beautiful or horrible -did i really do that?- so what kind of great guy are you then?...
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So art is about what ?
Go and sit on the mountain and give your lesson - we are listening, oh Lord!

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if you want lessons, go to an art course, i'm not a teacher, nor a preacher.
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What are you doing then when you say "They don't have done this and that, they should do such and such ..."
Oh yeah, just giving your free opinion on something as a member of the .... what is it yet ?

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that's right, it's just my opinion, and if you have another one, that's allright with me, but apart from criticizing mine it doesn't look that much to me.
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In Belgium you're allowed to have opinions on everything, BUT sometimes and in certain circumstances, you CANNOT make them public !
Every citizen knows the law, don't you ?

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that reminds me of a prison rule, in belgium inmates are allowed to have a computer and do whatever they want with it, but they cannot print or save anything to disk.
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I never said that some rules are stupid but don't pick just one like that to make me accept your point of view - very simplistic from you; I'm disapointed ...

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it makes your way of thinking very clear, always pinpointing 'the law' but remaining vague not to show that it's all a matter of locked up matter in your mind, always trying to do best, follow the law, be a good citizen, do like the others do, but in the meantime passing by reality and not noticing your life is burning up just like that.
if you know the law so well, you'd know that "sometimes and in certain circumstances" are quite crappy terms, preferably used by citizens who now and then think they should have control over others without any sensible reasoning.
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I just know the basic principles of a sane democracy and your liberty stops where the other's one begins, right ?

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so tell me, am i trespassing anybody's liberty?
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And furthermore, are you telling me that the work of a serial killer is beautiful (just to be sure I have it right ...?)

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that must be wishful thinking on your part, i never told you that.


I know, don't tell me : you're just doing something as a free man, considering that it is necessary to share the informations (or your "knowledge") with the poor people waiting anxiously for you to speak ?
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nothing is necessary, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
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Some things are necessary though.
The rules tell you if you should do it - Democracy is based on rules followed by everyone in the common interest.

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democracy - rules - common interest - followed by everyone, come on, are you that much of a sheep in the herd?
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You don't upset me by saying that. And you, are you trying to be the black sheep ? Why ? Were the others always so unfair with you when you were young ? Why do you always need to feel different from the others ? (oh, I can see you hesitating on that one !)

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hahaha, trying to find the unhappy youth there are you? in a minute i'll start crying of how i never had friends when i was a kid and my parents were never there when i needed them and the girls didn't notice me and i got pestered by all the classmates and had to do all the dirty boring jobs at work...


Guys like you are THAT close of crossing the line and they are dangerous, just for "promoting" in any way such criminal behaviours; I can't believe what I see - are you really aware of what you are doing now ?
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i'm not promoting anything here, perhaps you don't UNDERSTAND what you see. it might just be that i know a lot more about this type of criminal behaviour than you think and instead of showing vague pictures of the dangerous bogus man the police are looking for this is my approach to what's been happening in Mons.
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Then, do explain me what it is to give that sort of publicity on the Internet ?

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i wouldn't call this publicity, what do i have to gain here? i'm not promoting anything and i can't get any profit whatsoever. the internet is just a medium like any other, it just turns out to be easier to use for some of the stuff i do, if you'd like to hire billboards to paste up my next updates, you're welcome...
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Yeah right. In a way I am a bit jealous of guys like you, having the time to answer to that bunch of messages sent to you and carefully replying to all of them, always trying to be right and to have the last word. You are probably speaking with other "artists", some weird guys, some university people maybe, or even some police officers ... or the killer himself ! Oh yeah what a kick !!!

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well you seem to have as much time as me to answer all these messages, always taking care to send a reply a day later. and so what? if i start out doing something, i try to keep up with it, if that involves a lot of work and commitment, so be it. maybe it's because i'm not 'pretending' to be something or someone that i'm not.
again you're getting off on "artists", as if nothing serious could ever erupt from their twisted minds. and yes, i do speak with other people as well, even killers, not this one but some convicted and locked up multiple murderers.
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The problem is that you don't know the answer unfortunately. Or maybe you don't have that much messages ?

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i don't consider this as a problem, if i'd know the answer, there would be no challenge, there would be no mystery. it would make things easier for you, maybe you could just say i was wrong all the way, for now you'll never be sure. >
And, if you're so sure of the legitimate aspect of what you're doing, why do you take such precautions not to be mentioned with your real name (not discussing on the taste of the choice for your "acronym" ...)

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well it wasn't too hard for you to find out my real name was it?, so it's not that a great secret.
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Well, if you start from the Depeceur web site, I do think it's not that obvious - unless you know the people who piss on the principles of privacy that you are relying on .... maybe it's one of your friends who gave me your real name, or who knows ? You like mysteries don't you ?

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since you, and even the vast majority of belgium has never heard about me, it wouldn't make much difference would it? and again, i don't think my identity can add anything what's on the website, there is an email address, and just like you found out i'll reply to any of your questions.
on the other hand your outreagous reactions towards me as an artist show that it does matter who delivers the information, if i'd been a law-student or a psychologist with side-interest in criminology or anything else, half of your raisonné would have been skipped. just because i'm some weird kind of artist freak means i can't have any reasonable ideas about stuff that i happen to know a lot about. everybody has to stay in his little department and do what he's supposed to do, right? that looks pretty rigid to me, and yes, i'm sorry i don't fit in to that kind of pattern.
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I don't give credit to a person because of his diploma or his position, nor his ranking or whatever (although you might say it) - I give my respect to people for the quality of what they say and how they say it : that's my basic principle.

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still i can see in every remark that it's basically me being an artist that upsets you most, remember i was a patho sicko weird guy pretending to be an "artist" from the very first start.


I don't think so .... Herr Patho courageous Dany ...
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you could start by spelling my name correctly, stupid...
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Loosing control, eh ?
Not very serious for a scientific observer of serial killers ???

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the rules say that spelling should be correct, it surprises me you broke that rule.
some of the worst crimes could have been prevented if police-officers would have spelled the names of suspects correctly. remember, a sword cuts on both sides.
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There, I have to admit that you are a bit obscure to me. Are you simple enough to think to the fault of a crime lies on the responsability of one single man - should he be a police officer or whoever ?

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the fault of a crime...?
it is definitely true that crimes comitted by serial offenders, whether they be murderers, rapists or robbers, can be prevented if the work done by one single man in the chain of events isn't done right. here in belgium we've seen it happen too many times in the dutroux-case, where police-officers from various ranks have failed to pass through files, check out license-plates or verify well defined tips and previous convictions, which each and every one could have led to the arrest of marc dutroux, and saved the lives of four children and the abduction, incarceration and rape of two more! the people involved even go that far as to deny any mistake or sloppiness, even when confronted with other officers or secretaries who did pass vital bits of evidence, which they have filed away without further investigation!
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Second time I'm disapointed in the same message, uh uh - you're losing my consideration - yes, don't tell me - I already know you don't care !
Finaly you're so predictable and superficial.

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Give a kiss to your scumbags friends for me - I won't do it myself, for nothing in the world.
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i'll see you in hell!
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I don't think so, but, who really knows ?

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